Jiu Jitsu is the best these days. But judo is originally grappling sports.

Sir you aren't a EX judoka, everyone who touch the DOJO it's a judoka FOREVER. Best regards from BRASIL 🇧🇷

Not even close

No injuries!!! You have not trained that much! Lol

Judo is in my DNA but my body disagrees, sadly. Neil is a hero and inspiration to me. I still feel that thrill watching judo at any level.

fr man. i miss the old scoring and penalty system.

The new system is so much better for everyone IMO. It's hard to teach new people all the differences and the same for the referees whenever they made changes to the system or was teaching new referees. And the way they did it was very simple. Is it keikoku then it's a hansoku make in almost all the example except a few, and the rest was automatically Shido. Removing koka was also a good thing since all of the minor scores would cause a lot of discussions if it should have been a no score instead and especially when it comes to the whole discussion about impartial referees where it would be easy to argue if a score was okay since it was a minor one, when it was actually the judge having favoritism. But most importantly it taught the Judokas that only good technique would be rewarded instead of just focusing on koka scores and kinsa for hantai.

shido, chui, keikoku>>> hansoku-make

they said that yukos was to simplify it

Mainly because a lot of judokas try to win by Morote gari (double leg down). The Olympic Committee didn't want Judo to look like wrestling

Good thing I'm a law student 😂😅

@@bug5734yo ik this is random but is studying law worth it in ur opinion? just curious I’m considering doing it

totally agree

Yes..its tottaly diferent..

No, the reason is they didnt wanna get kicked from the Olympics because it was to much like wrestling

@@toxicbannanas3913 Э х~000

Kata guruma was out years ago. I'm not sorry. Sensei demonstrated with me as uki. Went to grab my gi, at the crotch/ inner thigh. It wasn't my thigh he grabbed. That's why I talk in a high voice

Can you elaborate on your point? I’m very interested in your view

Sr. D Well there are no more feudal wars against the Shogun so maybe you should just be thankful for having Judo anyway.👍

Van Damme yes, but you can practice at your judo club without the rule set of ijf, if they continue to restrict traditional judo movements more and more people are going to be switching from judo to bjj.

Yeah the no touching the legs is bs

And Neil Adams pronunciation of Japanese is horrid.

When I do randori at my judo club (both standing and grappling), I would sometimes go for an one hand ankle pick, sometimes a surprise double leg (when there's only few seconds left as a joke), a few leg locks. Many of my friends at judo think that not touching the legs at all during stand up is BS. I personally wish at least an ankle pick using the hand was allowed.

we're taught grip and go, you always want to be dominating

Where's the best place to learn real judo

@@saxoman1995 I have that question too

5th Dan at 34 is very impressive and is almost impossible now unless you're a consecutive world and Olympic champion unless corruption is part of it. I lot of the changes made was also to comply with IOC who was about to cut the sport out of the Olympics as they did with Wrestling and other sports, but we also wanted a more upright Judo style instead of the Sambo style of Judo that was influencing the sport in the 90's and 00's making it a very different kind of Judo from the one you knew in the 70's and 80's There is a lot to unpack and a ton of opinions on the matter. But if you read some of the teachings of Jigoro Kano you would know that we always have to adapt to our surroundings and learn to overcome challenges instead of crying about it. Crying never helped nobody and the people who stand tall and work with what they got and never gave up were also the ones who came out on top. Most of the people who threatened to leave the sport and go over to Free Judo or Kosen Judo are still around today, so it couldn't have been that bad. But the ones having a harder time adapting and making their one-dimensional Judo style more dynamic were the ones we lost in the process still popping up in comment threads telling us how everything was better back in the day. I've been doing Judo for 25 years and have seen tons of changes, and so have people that did it for 25 years before I started. And that is actually the wonderful thing about Judo... It actually changes with time to stay as modern as possible because that is how Kano wanted it, and that is how we generally want it. Is it always executed perfectly? Absolutely not! But doing nothing is also a mistake. You might remember how Kani Basani was outlawed in many places due to the high amount of injuries in the 60's and 70's with Kodokan refusing to ban the technique... Then came a famous all Japan incident with Yamashita, and the rest is history. We all have to adapt and we all make mistakes, but forcing the more upright Judo by removing leg grabs does not seem to be a huge one in my mind... And I'm a leg grabbing Judoka ;) I did Lats, Ko uchi makekomi, te guruma, sukui nage and morote gari. Now I do Ippon seoi nage, yuko tomoe nage and harai goshi instead... Adapt - Learn - Overcome

Agreed 100%. I´m not old school but I really see what you said, specially I´m against the last invent of IJF: "do no touch the pants"...WTF?...judo is not judo anymore

I think it depends on the underlying context. Ive heard some people say that the lack of leg grabbing is unrealistic but in what context? the sport of Olympic judo is pretty far removed from any kind of self protection wheather that was the original intention or not so that's not likely it. The same exact critique could be applied to greco and as you imply, you don't hear people complaining about that. A sport is a sport, no one argues for a weapon defence segment of Olympic judo or a match in which you're scored on giving statements to the police. If I were to guess I'd say that people are just comparing modern Judo to the judo they used to do and seeing it as less holistic, less fun and more contrived. When two people grapple leg grabs become inevitable. In the case of greco roman I would assume there's no complaints about leg grabbing because the rules been around for much much longer. So yeah, I'd say if I looked at it objectively, greco is more "watered down" than freestyle or catch it's just that everyones used to it?

And thats where Pankration comes in, to leave all you Beta Males chasing your Olympic Dream while the real Men pursue real Competition

@@mysty0 born 2000 years too late for my olive branch in pankration

I guess most people would say GR wrestling has always been built in sport and is not “worse” than freestyle, but rather a different style and ruleset and thus incomparable. Similarly, Kano intentionally modified the grappling portion of Japanese jiujitsu into judo to be used as a form of safe physical education, so it was also a limited grappling style based on its purpose. To answer your question, not training with leg grabs technically means you’re not really a “complete” judoka in the traditional sense of the art that Kano envisioned, but the modern judoka wants to win medals in the IJF judo ruleset, so being a fully well-rounded grappler doesn’t really matter to them.

Joseph Kohn because the IJF only cares about popularity apparently

when leg touching is valid its very hard to do beatiful throws such as uchi mata thats why.In this way judo is more beatiful and usefull no more wrestling like bend down oppenents and shots for throws.

what?

Yessssss dean would be proud

They need a meeting with John Danaher

I agree. Judo nowadays trasform a pilitical intetest of asians

@@nevermore1974. What are you talking about? It was the Europeans who wanted to change the rules to distinguish it from Olympic wrestling.

there has always been a technique of catching the legs. has no gokyo. That was a bunch of Asians. judo got crap!

@Rigoberto Sosa Judo is at its base form of wrestling, my man.

Yeah, modern boxing is like that too.

They won't but come back anyway, cause with the right mindset, you will be able to win again with other techniques ;)

no more touch at all hahahahaha it ll win th one with the best looking for be close to modern era hahahaha

Better Judo, more upright. Better technique instead of brawling and wrestling.

Agreed they are killing the sport. They should allow the wrestling back into Judo and let the sport evolve naturally. Don't place rules to suit your own distorted needs. Judo encompasses all forms of grappling if allowed.

*bull shido

No this is the latest rule set for 2018. Refer to the following announcement by IJF: www.ijf.org/news/show/detailed-explanation-of-the-ijf-judo-refereeing-rules The latest official IJF document 99e89a50309ad79ff91d-082b8fd5551e97bc65e327988b444396.r14.cf3.rackcdn.com/up/2017/11/2017-10-26_Explanatory_guide_o-1509786984.pdf and judoinside’s analysis www.judoinside.com/news/2370/New_IJF_Rules_for_2018_2020_analysed

Yes, it changed back in the latest rules.

Thanks I missed that rule change

Yuko was abolished a few years ago. Wazari now covers what used to be either yuko or wazari.

It went a few years ago I remember koca

Where and when was that? Cause the IJF rules has always been 2 waza ari = ippon as long as I can remember back. So since the 90's in my case.

Yeah, at the very least allow Achilles locks, knee bars and toe holds. It would make newaza more exciting... kinda hard to stall in turtle if you can leg lock.

Nope all fights for adults are 4 minutes. Kids often have the time reduced to 3 or even 2 minutes but the stand rules is 4 minutes.

Yes absolutely. Look at a throw like Koshi guruma, O goshi and Ippon seoi nage. You always grip the body instead within the rules and even grip around the wrist if your fingers are long enough. Several clubs has "no gi" training sessions to learn how to apply Judo without a jacket on. :)

Unless you're a naturist.

Choking as well

KZbin can actually autotranslate now, so as soon as they would enable subtitles in spanish, it would be automatic :) Hopefully they do :)

It has always been alowed

Hi! Because of the TV rights .The Highlights was on lequipe.fr as they are the rights holders in France.

Yohan Fernandez Because the French like to surrender which goes against Japanese customs and principles.😁

#bringbackoldjudo #letjudoevolve

Wrestling is banned?

@@JKT6 not banned, but its not classified as a permanent sport anymore. So It may be missing un some future olympics

If you grab the leg or defend with a hand on the leg, you get a shido, if you do it again you get hansoku make. Normally it would be 3 shidos = hansoku make but for the leg touch they made it strict. The illegal grip is basically anything other than standard kumi kata will earn you a shido if you don't attack at once. Even taking a same side or back grip for more a couple of seconds without initiating an attack is a shido offence. It's to avoid people locking down or stalling the fight with alternative grips, so keeping people at kumi kata, makes the fight more open for both parties with tons of variation.

Yes

Argoj Sestakov no i u will get shido

Kazim Erkan stop the fight bro

Kazim Erkan second touch =hansokou make

Michalis lagoudakis ah okey.. thank you bro 😉

Sorry the two answers are wrong. Under the latest IJF rules (2018) touching below the belt is now a *normal* shido. The second touch does not stop the match unless it is the third shido (hansoku-make). Refer to the latest official IJF document page 40 99e89a50309ad79ff91d-082b8fd5551e97bc65e327988b444396.r14.cf3.rackcdn.com/up/2017/11/2017-10-26_Explanatory_guide_o-1509786984.pdf and judobase’s analysis point number 8 www.judoinside.com/news/2370/New_IJF_Rules_for_2018_2020_analysed

Amos Tan thanks bro ..i like this new rull 😀

This is why wrestling will always beat judo.

Kouchi Makkikomi

kusotare Not outdated, it changed, but now it changed back to 2 waza-ari is ippon.

Well, you are the only idiot who doesn't research his own craft and answers "why"....

This is super interesting. In BJJ, people stall for long time to protect their points to win. Now many americans are pushing for a submission only tournament where you can only win by submission. Doesn't matter if you lose position repeatedly, as long as you choke or lock and tap them out, you win. No idea Judo is going backwards. Is there any major tournaments that do old judo ruleset? BJJ's tournaments are held all over the world and rule set may differ. IBJJF is the equivalent of IJF in Judo. Some people do not like the ruleset. Would love to learn judo one day.

Ben Peng Hello and thanks for your answer. I really think IJF is going backwards. I mean we even aren't allow to make all gokyo techniques "Kata Goruma" for example. I don't know the vast majority of BJJ but for me the fight that exemplifies the true nature of the art is the one wich took place between Eddie Bravo and Royler Gracie. Only win by submission sounds great due to the fact BJJ is worldwide known for it's ground work but as I told you I don't know the rules so I can not give a deeper opinion than this. Both BJJ and Judo were meant as fighting/selfe defense system so restricting competitors, bann techniques or aim for points as I see it, is senseless. I'm not american, I'm mexican :3 and for americans satndards it's a small city where I live and we only have at the best only 2 small Judo "academies" and train under IJF regulations so I'm afraid I can't answer you. América is bigger and there is a lot of population perhaps you have old school turnaments ;) Want and need to learn BJJ as soon as possible. Sambo looks amazing (not many schools in the whole country). I really hope one day IJF could see they are damaging the art. Would be incredible to witness in Olympics a more true Judo's roots aproach "Either win by Ippon or lose by Ippon" and I'm looking forward to see our BJJ brothers competing at the Olympics.

Judo was not meant to be a fighting/self defense system. It was actually meant to be a replacement for PE in school. And BJJ was meant to be used for one on one Vale tudo. Main problem with submission only is that most fights end in a draw and last way too long, and that is hard to sell to someone new that doesn't understand what is going on. Also leg locks are not impossible you can make a case that they are the primary weapon in modern BJJ, look up John Danaher death squad and see how ineffective they are.

Filip Cordas hi and thanks for your opinión. Judo aimed to teach how to subdue without injuring the opponent and BJJ as far as I know was modified from Judo (called Kano's Jiu Jitsu by the time) by Helio Gracie. Helio (a frail man but courageuos) created his own variation due to the fact he thought much of JJ techniques were meant to the stronger. He leater showed all over Brazil Gracie Jiu Jitsu effectiveness by fighting. Sadly in Judo we the judokas during Tachi Waza aren't allow to grab the legs (double take down, single take down, Kata Goruma) if we do that it's a Shido.Leg locks and sicssor take down are still forbidden that's why I've been dreaming about IJF changing that. Really know for nonpractitioners of any grappling art, submission tournaments should be boring but I do understand the feeling of BJJ practitioners about how can you be the best at BJJ if you are not capable of sumbmiting your adversary, same goes in Judo about Ippon.

No actually the real history of Judo is much more interesting than people think. It has a lot to do with Meiji Restoration, Kano was the director of primary education for the Ministry of Education from 1898 to 1901. Judo was an attempt to westernize traditional Jiu Jitsu and make it safe to teach in the new western style primary schools, that started to be introduced at that period, and that where the not injuring the opponent comes from so kids learn not to injure each other and show respect to there opponents . The second function was to be an Olympic style sport that where gaining popularity in the west, that is not to say Kanu actually wanted it to be part of the Olympic games but was inspired by the philosophy. Lots of people don't know that the belt sistem is not all that traditional and was not invented by Kano he just took a similar sistem used by different athletic departments at the time. Self defense was the goal of Judo but not in the way we think of it, it was more trying to become a good citizen and do what you need for you nation in that early 1900 way. And BJJ was a bunch of Brazilians fighting each other one on one, and since judo is a good way of fighting they used a lot of techniques from judo and adapted them for one on one fighting.

Wdeivson Nascimento isso mesmo, amigo, mas , se nos nao tentarmos aprender o ingles,vamos ficar sem boa parte do conteudo que eh publicado. A gente precisa encarar esse desafio,OSS!

Éder Bandeira concordo plenamente com você só que a legenda ajuda bastante nessa aprendizagem! Oss

my trainer does

yes it's called Brazilian jiu jitsu, taught to us by a jigoro Kano black belt. ALL techniques of judo are allowed

Igor Morais Most Bjj trainers often leave the more complex judo throws out because they are more concerned with winning the ground game and not slamming anyone. Dedicated Judo Gyms should continue the art for the sake of Preservation.

#bringbackoldjudo #letjudoevolve

@@igormorais4192 Thats simply not true :) IBJJ organization forbids also ALOT of valid techniques.

Both just like boxing, karate, taekwondo, etc

Florian Erbs unfortunately yes

Wow i think thats awesome hated the last year due to this weird rule

correct. It was change in order to make it more appealing to viewers of the sport who have no idea of rules and got confused why one throw is better than another

He will walk out before half the first round is over with

If you read Jigoro Kanos teaching you would know that this is what he would have wanted for the sport. This was meant to be a continually developing sport and not just a rigid Martial Art. The point of Judo was to create a completion system and if you think about how Judo changed in the 80's 90's 00's and so on, we can with absolute assurance say that it's very different from what he saw in his last days in the 1930's and that is a good thing. People seem to forget why the rules have changed in the first place, and what has actually been achieved with it. We adapt, we learn, and we overcome ;)

Sensei Rich 3 shidos = ur out

@Axii What's that?