Judo by 2050: Only Ippon Seoi Nage is allowed to make the sport explosive and attractive

Imagine years of training Reverse Seoinage only to be nerfed by IJF

My complaints: ---The ban of the reverse seoi nage is a complete non sense in and of itself. But furthermore, are the referees really gonna be able to tell the difference between a reverse seoinage and a missed sode tsuri komi goshi? Often times the difference is subtle, especially with drop throws. ---Are you really gonna give no score to that Uchi-mata counter attack? Then what risk am i really taking when committing to an uchi-mata? At best i am gonna get a score and in the worst case scenario i will only have to defend myself on the ground. ---This is a minor complaint but: how many times are you going to change the requirements for a fit judogi? Just do an effective study already and set for the correct lengths and measures once and for all. Sorry for the rant and bitterness but i felt like expressing my honest opinions.

6:10 - Continuation Of Techniques 8:17 - Waza-ari Landing 1 10:51 - Waza-ari Landing 2 11:33 - Landing On Elbows Or Hands 12:45 - Rollover Counter Techniques 14:20 - Reverse Seoi Nage 15:05 - Gripping Under The Belt In The End Phase 16:47 - Lapel And Collar Grip 17:40 - Unconventional 18:20 - Gripping Breaking Penalties 19:00 - Arranging of the Judogi And Hair 20:20 - Head Diving

With the exception of rule number 12, which really is a very dangerous situation, all the others are ridiculous!!! They're ending judo!! We are losing more and more space to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, which has modernized and is much clearer to understand and much more inclusive. Jigoro Kano has always strived for excellence and that's why he created judo, including his practical and philosophical ideas and you guys are spoiling our beloved sport.

One of the best BJJ promotional videos I've ever seen. Good stuff IJF.

Not gonna lie some of these new rules are completely nonsense.

Jumping arm bars, korean seoi, rolling counters, leg grabs, standing armlocks, "gerbi choke", "unorhodox" grips... what else? List is long. Banning techniques is not way to go. There are many judo techniques we dont see anymore and its killing judo from evolving.

Reverse seoinage 😰

As a competitor and coach, I was looking forward to a video explaining the reasoning behind the rules. I know and watch enough videos to spot examples, why is the reasoning inaccessible? IJF, what do I need to read or watch to understand the reasoning?

What is the justification behind the disallowing of reverse seoinl nage getting a score?

I would like to know the reason for penalizing reverse seoi nage as would a lot of the viewers, because it seems as a just plain stupid decision.

How democratic is Judo? Who are they to decide? What about the vast majority of judoka that have nothing to say about that? Who is judo for? Is it for the elites or for millions of judoka all over the world? Or is it for some PR people that dictate what they want? Removing possibilities to score makes our sport even more boring, we've seen it at the Tokyo Olympics, watching judo is almost as boring as watching football. This development started in 2009 with the ban of leg grabs.

-Reverse seoi nage complete nonsense, failed sode is much more dangerous -judogi measurements are every year different its really ridiculous - ruining the sport, more people will transfer to brazilian jiu jitsu because sport is evolving

These guys have fucked up judo so much. “To make to sport more attractive to watch,…” they’ve done the complete opposite. They made it more complex and boring to watch. Who tf comes up with these new rules all the time?!

each time there are more prohibitions, let's make a contactless sport like aikido, prohibit the most spectacular technique in judo, we need to think of doing it. Need to make a petition, or circulate the hashtag #BackReverseSeioNage

The ban on reverse Seo is upsetting

About Decision # 6: I can't understand why the IJF has banned the Reverse Seoinage. They should explain, give a logical reason and a clear answer, what criteria has been used to penalize it? The statistics do not show that it is a dangerous technique. There are no reasonable statistics to support this decision, judokas are not injured (both when applying it and when being thrown). Since Judo was created, Morote gari existed and up to 8 years before the Beijing Olympic Games, the leg grip became very popular as a very effective form of throwing, most countries used it and won many gold medals. With this, after Beijing it was banned and with it its variants disappeared (Kata guruma, kuchiki taoishi, kubisu gaeshi and others), the IJF said that the Morote Gari and Kata guruma was very confused with the launches of wrestling and Sambo and was lost the judo part, I remember that was the explanation. Many years ago (since the 70s) the Kani-Basami (flying scissors) had already been banned because it could spoil the legs of the uke, there was even a very popular case in Japan in the 80s that involved Saito and Yamashita (who was injured)....But to ban and penalize Reverse Soinage, it seems to me that it does not make sense, an explanation with credible statistics and easy to verify is necessary.

I like when they say this groups of grips are not traditional but leg grabbing used to be traditional and they no longer allow it anymore

Is there somewhere to read the reasonings for the new decisions? Specifically the reverse seoi, and shido for not falling flat on the back. Reverse seoi isn't an unstoppable, foolproof way of winning every match, there is clear and obvious counterplay and a risk to throwers own hands, so it seems reasonable to keep. Applying a shido for stopping an ippon seems strange as well. Uke is already giving away a score via waza-ari - why penalize them as well? I like the gripping changes, and the weigh in times.

This is why after over a decade of Judo, I moved over to BJJ. I stopped 5 years ago because of what was happening to the sport, and then I see this video come up on my feed and knew that I made the right decision. Judo was simple when I started as a kid. Use good technique to get an opponent to the ground and either pin or submit them and if you were passive, you got a penalty. Honestly I don't think I could come back to Judo as I would just be penalised for anything I did which is such a shame as I fell in love with the sport all those years ago. Judo will gradually die out with how the IJF handle the sport

6:10技の継続について 8:17どのように着くのが技ありか1 10:51どのように着くのが技ありか2 11:33投げられたあと手をついたり肘をついたりするとお尻と手しか畳についていないけど技あり＆指導 12:45内股等のめくりはノースコア 14:20韓国背負いはノースコア＆指導 15:05技のおわりには帯より下を握ってもよい 16:47背部や両襟で頭を潰されても指導にならない 17:40片襟、クロスグリップ、ピストルグリップ、ポケットグリップ等は攻撃の瞬間のみ認める 18:20釣り手(襟)を切ると指導、引き手(袖)はセーフ？ 19:00待ての間に道着と髪を直さなければ指導 20:20ヘッドダイビング反則負け

Judo in 2022: you can only look at your opponent because if you touch him he could get hurt

So now basically, if you do bad judo throwing yourself in a bad attack like low makikomi is more attractive than a standing Reverse seoi nage? Why advantage those who dive down to make opponents look passive? I really don’t get the point in limitings techniques and Judoka’s creativity… IJF IS EVIL.

Confusing rules. I can predict most of the fights will be decided on video analysis. Shame on you IJF 😔

I was hoping for leg grips and throws being allowed again, but again Judo is the only martial art that removes techniques instead of adding and innovating. I miss doing kata guruma...

A bunch of bureaucrats are killing judo. You mustn't hide behind Jigoro Kano's images because your ijf judo is a pale shadow of his judo!

Sometimes the IJF makes me not want to do Judo anymore.

Unfortunately it seems to be mainly things being taken away again. This time it’s the reverse seionage. What is next?

I can understand the reasoning behind some of the rules but some of them clearly have no discernible reason for the change. Looking forward to the reason for the reverse seio-nage ban.

Decisão da FIJ Decisão 1: Técnicas contínuas - 6:13 Decisão 2, 3 e 4: Waza-ari (o que é e o que não é + shidô) - 8:16 - 11:30 Decisão 5: Revertida - 12:43 Decisão 6: Seoi reverso - 14:17 Decisão 7: Ne-waza (ou não) - 15:04 Decisão 8 e 9: Kumi-kata - 16:45 - 18:18 Decisão 10: Briga de pegada - 18:19 Decisão 11: Arrumar Judogui e amarrar cabelo - 18:59 Decisão 12: Apoio da cabeça p/ técnica - 20:18

Je comprend pas pourquoi interdire les reverse soei nage. Ces techniques font partie de l’ADN du style de judo de plusieurs personnes, je pense notamment aux koréens. Surtout qu’aux fils, le reverse est devenu l’une des plus belles techniques à voir et est devenu très populaire chez jeunes. La vidéo ne nous explique nullement pourquoi l’interdire. Et je ne parle même pas des contre de uchi-mata qui sont l’une des meilleures punitions dans le monde du judo

IFJ Referee Commission Decision 1. Continuation Of Techniques - 6:13 Decision 2. Waza-ari Landing 1 - 8:16 Decision 3. Waza-ari Landing 2 - 10:47 Decision 4. Landing On Elbows Or Hands - 11:32 Decision 5. Rollover Counter Techniques - 12:43 Decision 6. Reverse Seoi Nage - 14:17 Decision 7. Gripping Under The Belt In The End Phase - 15:04 Decision 8. Lapel & Collar Grip - 16:45 Decision 9. Unconventional Grips - 17:37 Decision 10. Gripping Breaking Penalties - 18:19 Decision 11. Arranging of the Judogui or Hair - 18:59 Decision 12. Head Diving - 20:18

Clear reasons why ijf should not hold power over the teachings of judo. And more reasons why more alternative federations and groups of judo should compete for attention of traditional judo teachings in their own tournament styles.

If i had a company that in each four years they changing the path of the firm they would be fire on the spot. To much incompetence always changing the rules and to worst. Soccer had is rules almost unchanged for more than 100 years.

The majority of the new rules are ridiculous and useless. What is the problem with reverse seoi-nage?

no reverse seoi nage?? IJF you should clarify the reason why you changed the rule.

Killing innovation in the sport.

"We want to make judo more attractive, that's why we are banning reverse seoi nage" 😑

What about the Sode-Techniques, especially in the sometimes assimilated style of Hashimoto? There would be kind if evidence for injuries and Uke is often not able to react properly...from the first kind of view, not too much sense can be found in the actual changes...

I've seen a lot of people here saying that they will go to BJJ due to all the banned throws. That is not a smart desition. Judo competition has problems but changing to a ruleset that allows to cowardly evade the takedown phase of the match (guard pulling) is not the solution. I do both Judo and BJJ but when I compete in BJJ even when the rules allowed me to do all the existent Judo throws my oponents put their butts on the mat in just a few seconds once the match started. Go to BJJ if you want to do more submissions but if you want to do more throws something like sambo will be a better option.

Some rules do make sense, but there are others that I personally don't see their purpose. IJF is making judo attractive to watch for non-Judokas but non-attractive for judokas

Не зря Ан Чангрим бросил дзюдо🤦🏻‍♂️

In regards to the two hand landing, penalty and score, has there ever been a situation in previous rule sets where penalty was given and score awarded for the same action? I'm obviously not referring to situations where two separate actions occurred, such as a clear score and an eye poke

I stopped training judo in 2006. Today's judo doesn't have much in common with the traditional judo I knew. That all changed in 2012, when the IjF federation introduced dramatic laws prohibiting grabbing legs in a stand-up collar. (Morote gari, Te guruma, etc.) This was to help the Japanese, who had problems defending these techniques. And then I thought that it is impossible to spoil my beloved discipline more... Politics is even in sports

I miss the old throws involving leg grabs. :(

Congratulations, IJF! You guys are killing Judo. We can't do motore gari anymore, we can't do te guruma, anymore. Now this! YOU GUYS ARE KILLING JUDO!

Pourquoi annuler les reverse seoi nage 😕

I think it's stupid to penalize arranging the judogi. So now all I have to do is pull up my opponents gi and he is getting penalized afterwards

If it continues like this, BJJ (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu) will be accepted by more people than Judo, IJF

Not a single positive comment about IJF. We should boycott their broadcasts.

No counter uchi mata 🤯🤯🤯

Allright I can get behind that the video should be as short as possible, but will there be a written statement behind these changes? Reverse Seoi-Nage? Really? And whats up with Decision 11 regarding Judogi / Hair adjustment ONCE? U know u cant predict if the jacked will become undone or hair fixers breaks during the match right? Thats especially for woman players.

I do seoi nage and my opponent goes on the other side what I suppose to do. Pls someone answer

Head diving was already banned but shohei was never penalozed

Taking oit the reverse seo nagi is sad.. and what about bridging?

Can we stop removing things from judo ?

reverse seoi nage ruling with absolutely no explanation, sounds about right

Kani basami had a legitimate reason for banning: lots of knees were injured when the thrower pulled the weight of uke on one leg resulting the "scissoring" of the knee. You can see and hear this on camera in the Yamashita vs Endo fight in the all Japan a long time ago. Reverse Seoi nage however doesn't really cause injuries I've literally never seen an injury occur in competition Judo where the reason was reverse seoi nage therefore the ban is completely unreasonable and counterproductive to their goal of making Judo more appealing to spectators as the reverse seoi nage is one of the most flashy throws out there few people can perform

What was wrong with so great Korean seoi nage technic????? - decision 6. Decision 5 is also not clear - not allowed to counter roll tori after his throw attempt 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ If in the direction of the attempt it would be understandable but if in opposite direction???? You guys deny defending from Uchi Mata?

Mucha confusión. El no score del 10:38 parece score de acuerdo al ejemplo que ya habían explicado.

I just cant believe how cheap a wazari is now. Is it still 2 wazari for ippon

Most of these are silly… I’m not even sure I follow the statement about unconventional grips. The implication there seems to be “proper judo is only done from the traditional grips” Which… definitely seems like overt regression rather than active evolution of rules to support new tactics. Also obligatory booing at the death of reverse seoi.

IJF is killing the sport I love 😪

More than feeling personally attacked, I feel like the judo as a whole is loosing it's roots gradually. I can understand that a sport needs to evolve (even more when it comes to regulate real danger) but saying that you change the rules for medias is inexcusable to me. We don't need fights to look like a kata demonstration and killing creativity will lead to less dynamic to me. I really fell in love with this sport 10 years ago and I'm feeling like it's not the same anymore. It really makes me sad.

did the ijf give any definition of what counts as a reverse seoi nage by now? the differences between reverse seoi and sode tsuri komi goshi can be somewhat fluid...

These New rules Just kill the judoka spirit inside the millions of athletes around the world, you can't just change the traditional rules just besause your ambitions, so disappointed

Why shido for reverse seoi nage? Why shido for my judogi being pulled out by the opponent? Ridiculous ...

The ban on reverse seoi nage is outrageous and stupid.

Minute 10:42 no score but referee gives score. Why?

Neil Adam's and Marius Viser will go down in history as having destroyed Judo since 2012. We might as well go do Aikido if we want to look beautiful. This isn't judo anymore.

Is the Ole Bisschoff style reverse seoi nage also banned? I see only examples of the Korean style reverse seoi nage in this video.

So in case of hair or judogi re-arrangement: if your gi is wide open or long hair is all over the place, are you still not allowed to re-arrange it without shido? Are you supposed to fight the rest of the match like that? Or will it be ruled by the referee that you need to re-arrange them without shido? I'd think it was everyone's best interest if the hair or gi aren't flailing around freely. Of course it's a chance to rest, but it's better for the technique and competition if the secondary things aren't messing with the judo.

Does decision 7 mean Kata Guruma with leg grab is legal again?

Is there a place that we can download this video? Thank you!

I don't understand the ban of the reverse seoi nage. Ok, I wouldn't like it as uke myself since it seems a bit tricky, but I find it efficient, giving clear ippons, so it's Judo. IJF should have explained why it's dangerous so you can understand this new rule. On the opposite, I like the end of the rolling counter, which seemed very artificial, very often with no force at all in the contact.

Head diving is the only one that makes sense but the rest, come on IJF! They are just useless, the belt and hair thing I see why but the judoka should be allowed to take off their belt or do up their hair if needed as many times needed to. The reverse seo why?? Unconventional grips, that rule was already a thing I’ve heard many of times of the penalising of unconventional grips so why say it again? The colar, lapel grip again it was kinda a thing and the went with all grips if you are active in throwing you won’t be penalised. Another one was continuation of techniques that was a thing already i don’t know why they have to point it out. The Judogi doesn’t make sense just make up your mind and shut up about it. The weighing times I don’t worry about as it doesn’t affect me really. The rolling counter makes 0 sense uchi mata and some other throws need this counter and now you don’t get a score in preventing it rolling over their back, it sounds like the continuation of techniques but doesn’t follow it?? The 90 degrees is stupid now u can get 2 horrible throws and win now? Judo is becoming worse and worse every time they come out these new rules or regulations. I don’t think judo will be like it was in the 90s even though there was a bit less media on it.

Parem de querer limitar o judô a todo custo! Vocês estão destruindo uma arte marcial completa! PÉSSIMA FEDERAÇÃO

Cool, killing the sport even more. Well done!

I just started practicing Judo, but I knew this comment section would be fun lol 🤣

Yo de por si llegue al judo cuando ya habian eliminado los agarres de las piernas (la formas mas facil he intuitiva de derribar a una persona, independientemente del deporte del que hablemos), ahora eliminan el reverse... yo digo, la gracia no es enseñarle Judo a las nuevas generaciones y que el conocimiento pase de una a otra?... sinceramente cro que cada ves se enseña menos, el conocimiento se pierde y al menos a mi entender es contraproducente. La verdad una lastima.

Why is a Reverse Seoi Nage a Shido and no Score??? Can anybody explain it to me?

Reverse seoi is cool and effective. Unnecessary ban

So... seoi got nerfed while uchi-mata is nearly impossible to punish, at the same time grip fighting just got more messy and nonsensical while Ono's fighting style is a winner by default because the new rules say so. The reasoning behind all this: unknown. You have to love the IJF 🙄🤦‍♂️

I find a few extremely confusing, would hate to be a ref l, I dont understand why putting your hands or elbows down makes any difference as your scored against or out anyway, is it for safety or to hold on and try and be seen to transition into a counter?, and the fixing of the belt and hair is very ambiguous in this explanation without the rest of understanding, does it mean you just carry on with everything dangling, I'm fine with that but I don't want to be penalised for stuff hanging out, and does the ref stopping the fight to ask you to refit a second time give you a penalty?? Or is it if matte is called and you refix yourself the second time that creates the penalty?,if hair drops and matte is called for no newaza solution a second time and you leave it alone hanging down, do u get a penalty or just carry on without fixing it? I need to find more explanation like was given in "allowed tech and then for clarity the the disallowed tech from similar position in this video. And thats apart from everything else, just saying,I respect Neil Adams immensely, I think him explaining the best he can doesn't mean he agrees with everything either, I get the thinking on dynamism and creating exciting action for the layman cos I love BJJ but compared to Judo it's like watching paint dry, (I do both so I can have an opinion on it), I know people don't like change but sometime it's not always for the better, I'm still stuck on the last rule change, I know teguruma has been banned for attack but I'm still wondering if it's allowed in a counter, I though kataguruma was banned but I see it all the time in IJF comp, maybe I'm not studying enough or missing some rule changes, I get the head diving, some people have ended up paraplegic, (Inc someone I was acquainted with R.I.P. btw,), I'm glad I still go to non IJF clubs whereby some of the banned non dangerous IJF tech is still allowed at club level. Either way, Judo is an extraordinary life journey and an amazing sport,, peace 🙏👍

Compulsory to play katame waza ie newaza,shime waza,kansetsu waza and same standing penalty also

Why is Reverse-Seoinage forbidden now? Is it considered dangerous?

19:00 What if referee asks the competitor to adjust his judogi or hair second time? Is it still shido?

I'm not really involved with Judo, although I like to watch on the Olympics and the Slams and Grand Prix. My impression is that IJF is doing its best to make the general public dislike judo for been arbitrary and full on non sense. Measuring the angle of an elbow for scoring something is completely ridiculous. The amount of shidos pretty much restrict fighters strategy and make the hole thing boring.

Dear IJF, we, the majority of the practitioners, want our old judo back.

How about hair grab?

At least allow grabbing, breaking, locking legs on the ground.

Get the 90s judo back please

so this is why youtube removed dislike counts

한국인을 위해 대충 정리해본 글 1. 다소 길어지는 공격상황에서 공격자의 끊김 없는 움직임 만이 득점대상 2. 절반상황1 기존 어깨 뒷면까지 닿아야 하는 득점상황에 더해서 어깨로 착지하였지만 수직(90도)으로 떨어질경우 절반 득점 (90도가 아닌 앞으로 떨어지는 경우는 제외) 3. 절반 상황2 (정확히는 모르겠음) 받기의 모든 신체가 넘어가지 않고 등의 상부(upper back)와 어깨가 함께 바닥에 닿아도 공격자의 득점으로 인정함(절반) 4. 낙법없이 양팔꿈치 또는 양손을 짚어 착지하는경우 기존 : 절반만 주어짐 변경 : 공격자 절반득점, 받기 지도하나 (부상방지 목적인듯) 5. 공격이 유효하지않았는데 공격자를 굴리면서 되치기 했을때 더이상 점수가 없음 (어떤 기술없이 되치기성으로 등을 땅에 닿게만 하는 공격류를 말하는거같음) (영상으로 이해하는게 쉬울듯) 6. 말아업어치기 금지 😢 말아업어치기하면 공격자에게 지도 7. 공격의 마지막 페이즈에서 벨트아래(하체)를 잡는것에 대한 설명 1) 하체부분에 힘을가해 기술을 완성시키는것과 별개로 마무리시 단순히 닿은것은 반칙과 무관하게 득점 2) 공격에 끊김이 발생해 굳히기 상황으로 유도했을경우 다리를 잡을 수 있음 (수정) 공격에 끊김이 발생해 굳히기 상황으로 유도했을 경우 (x) 공격에 끊김이 발생하면 굳히기 상황으로 보겠다.(정정) (이때는 굳히기상황이니 다리를 잡아도 된다고 해석하는것같음) 8. 뒷깃(lapel)과 앞깃(collar) 같이잡기 allowed if not negative(너무 반칙성?만 아니면 허용된다는 의미인듯) 9. 변칙성 그립 벨트잡기, 한쪽만 잡기, 목을 가두지않은 틀어잡기 피스톨그립, 포켓그립

If head diving is not allowed and passive to hansokumake, so uranague should be as per you are back head diving your opponent

Taking out reverse Seoinage is complete garbage.

Bhot badiya sir Sab samjgyaaa ❤️❤️❤️👍👍

I wonder how many fights will end because somebody s jacket or hair is loose. Guess that will be the end of golden score ... ??

After four weeks i have to say: This video raises more questions than it gives answers. You can see that in the commentaries below -.-