BJJ: 'There's no groundwork in judo'. Judo:

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@kimurajack8364 9 ай бұрын

There is no BJJ without Judo.

@JEFFMAN90 8 ай бұрын

Theres no Judo without Japanese Jiu Jitsu

@inakei5097 8 ай бұрын

Kimura sensei !!

@GatorsFan2138 8 ай бұрын

Yes but Bjj ground work is lightyears ahead of judo’s. We don’t really even use the judo groundwork moves anymore

@aavinashchaliha7810 8 ай бұрын

@@GatorsFan2138Thats why every BJJ black belt gets tapped out by a Sambo practitioner.

@dimasheckert8734 8 ай бұрын

@@GatorsFan2138 wrong. Research about kosen judô.

@tokonjudo 9 ай бұрын

30 years ago Groundwork was much revered and Judoka who practiced for 20 years were unstoppable on the floor. Nowadays the focus is certainly on stand up and I can still beat blackbelts on the floor after 20 years off the sport, I went back aged 50.

@lugizna 9 ай бұрын

😁🤣💪👍

@user-fp5ym4uu2f 9 ай бұрын

🤝🙏

@dimasheckert8734 9 ай бұрын

I agree with you.

@franciscoferreira-eh1yu 8 ай бұрын

That IS the problem when a martial ART becomes a sport, specially a olimpic sport.

@PescaColorata 8 ай бұрын

@sleepplayrepeat4946 9 ай бұрын

Smh at the tribalism in the comments, judo is awesome, bjj is awesome, wrestling is awesome. Train them all!! We all just grapplers at the end of the day, choosing one or the other only limits you

@dinowd2r922 6 ай бұрын

The techniques are pretty much the same in every grappling art, you are just choosing a tradition and a set of rules when you go for one or another

@tsibren 6 ай бұрын

This.

@ModernBladesmith 6 ай бұрын

@dinowd2r922 horseshit. Wrestling techniques are vastly different BECAUSE of the rules and origin. That's like saying all striking arts are the same.

@NotN8 6 ай бұрын

It'd be nice if there was a no-gi grappling sport that incorporated them all. BJJ does sort of, but it doesn't reward many points for forceful throws like judo & those throws aren't encouraged + pulling guard is kinda lame.

@ModernBladesmith 6 ай бұрын

@@NotN8 catch wrestling? Japanese Jujutsu? You can train to counter guard pulling. If you want points for throws, just keep throwing him and standing up.

@cbvisuals9757 8 ай бұрын

Man this judo channel goes hard on the shorts

@youngkwak9931 8 ай бұрын

I did judo in the 90s and i will say this my top game translates well in bjj my base and core is strong so i can avoid sweeps and understand submissions. People would see me with a white belt wondering how i am grappling purple belts and brown belts with ease

@jimolig5375 5 ай бұрын

I've been waiting for a ne-waza clip, more please!!

@cameronforbes2649 9 ай бұрын

Idk the Judo term, but in BJJ terms we'd call it the Reverse Omaplata. It's very rare. Imo, it's one of the best moves across both sports. In Judo, it's actually technically a better move because it doubles as a turn-over and potentially a pin even if you don't get the submission. Whereas, in BJJ I don't think it'd award you any points, so it's a hail mary to submission. . . but it'd probably leave you in a good position. I know some Judoka will call it the Huizinger Roll, but I think of that as a transition. I'm talking about the Japanese/Kodokan way of saying the submission like Ude Garame. . . Lastly, I think most Judoka are surprised by this move as well, even many blackbelts don't know this.

@freashty 7 ай бұрын

Pretty sure you'd get points for a sweep in bjj

@cameronforbes2649 6 ай бұрын

@@freashty how could it be a sweep if it wasn't from the guard? It's more in a 'turnover' category, but that doesn't really exist in IBJJF terms does it. . . It doesn't really matter either way, it's badass

@carlosbritta 6 ай бұрын

Golpe muito bom! Nice! 🤜🏼🤛🏻

@dogestranding5047 5 ай бұрын

So many different names lol

@orde_plongo.3.0 5 ай бұрын

If u don't know the root than everything u know is nothing..

@leoalcaraz6153 3 ай бұрын

That is one of the most brutal finishes I’ve seen in a judo match ever

@philcantv6011 9 ай бұрын

superb❤

@clgmafnas 5 ай бұрын

Great setup

@bartofilms 7 ай бұрын

The move Huizinga was famous for. 😊.

@gam3rfr3ak13 9 ай бұрын

Isn't this attacking the shoulder joint and not the elbow? I thought that was illegal in judo

@valerydesaintambroise 9 ай бұрын

me too

@PhysiKarlz 9 ай бұрын

Hand behind the shoulder -> torques the shoulder. Hand away from the shoulder as here -> torques the elbow before the shoulder.

@gam3rfr3ak13 9 ай бұрын

@PhysiKarlz So you're telling me that a Kimura is an elbow attack? Have you ever been in one?

@vittocrazi 9 ай бұрын

@@gam3rfr3ak13funny you use a staple judo technique as your example. By the way, It does Torque the elbow if you compresas that joint. Only It IS still effective if its not right, only It transfers the pressure. And there IS an allowed grey area for shoulder cranks, as long as they are not evidently a shoulder exclusive attack

@danielyoung9403 9 ай бұрын

Ukis hand is on his waste so it can't lock out his shoulder

@rorydouglas8738 9 ай бұрын

Judoka: *turtles with no attempt to get out*

@danielrathbun8380 9 ай бұрын

Hardy har har....good one

@thecollector6746 8 ай бұрын

..anyone who actually know what they are looking at wouldn't have made that comment. But by all means...continue letting us know how much you don't know.

@rorydouglas8738 8 ай бұрын

@@thecollector6746 Not this video, judo in general - the rule set incentivizes waiting in turtle until matte.

@thecollector6746 8 ай бұрын

@@rorydouglas8738 I have been practicing and competing at a national level in Judo for over 20 years. Uke didn't try to get out because he couldn't. Again...if you knew what you were looking at your take wouldn't be the garbage that it is.

@rorydouglas8738 8 ай бұрын

@@thecollector6746 Again, not talking about this video specifically. If you want to use your 20 years of experience to tell me how the modern rule set encourages an active turtle game, then please enlighten me Sensei.

@GoDaveGo 9 ай бұрын

I’d like to see penalties for passivity on the ground in judo with a focus on fast action

@tokonjudo 9 ай бұрын

There is, if anything the action is always stopped way too soon to see action, fast action is the deciding factor.

@Kwisatz-Chaderach 8 ай бұрын

5 seconds to advance is all you get before being stood up.

@montagistreel 8 ай бұрын

.....?

@micaylapresley 8 ай бұрын

This is exactly why Judo devolved in the newaza department

@montagistreel 8 ай бұрын

@tokonjudo that's what I was thinking but on 2nd thought maybe he was being ironic or something? Lol

@Blackbelt-Shaq 6 ай бұрын

Just trained at an Olympic level judo academy who also has BJJ classes and still there judo blackbelts we’re absolute trash on the newaza. It felt like they were the most experienced white belts but had no real defense. There tachi waza was incredible but even there white belts felt somewhat strong there but disappointing on the ground. I hope to see a world where we can combine the 3 major grappling arts into one!

@danieltilahun9400 4 ай бұрын

i did bjj for 10 yrs , and now the last 2 yrs i am doing Judo , i love it ,

@nowaythanholloway 6 ай бұрын

Did he just pull off a kimura.. using his legs?? Damn!

@sergeiberov2326 Ай бұрын

В дзюдо нужна не столько сила, сколько ум !!!!

@farisazim2941 9 ай бұрын

His shoulder was dislocated actually. That's why he didn't move

@georgemorley1029 3 ай бұрын

I get the same recurring dislocation and the fact that he essentially didn't tap until the bar was fully on the dislocated arm is incredible.

@cska2001 9 ай бұрын

Красавец, Матвей!🇷🇺👍

@franciscoeukalyptus6537 9 ай бұрын

Is he the dude wearing white? 😊

@cska2001 9 ай бұрын

@@franciscoeukalyptus6537 Matvei Kanikovsky, in blue gi, 100 kg vs. Zelim Kotsoev ( Azerbaijan). It was brilliant!

@felipemartinez1275 6 ай бұрын

BJJ: Basically Just Judo

@vibovitold 5 ай бұрын

BJJ has evolved the ground game way beyond Judo (which has mostly stagnated in this area anyway).

@user-kp3te5gg6z 4 ай бұрын

@@vibovitold Well many things in bjj aren't very useful in a fight, so that doesn't say much.

@T-h-a-t_G-u-y 2 ай бұрын

@@user-kp3te5gg6zSo is judo

@thebabyshpee6508 2 ай бұрын

Judo is the takedown. BJJ is the groundwork. I see them as completely complimentary, and competitions should incorporate both. Instead, we just have pulling guard in BJJ which is just uninteresting to watch

@user-ev5vt2xw1f Ай бұрын

Дзюдо и BJJ(Бразильское Джиу-джитсу),не одно и тоже.😎😎😎

@user-tp5um4sp4v 9 ай бұрын

это... очень круто

@aaronrichard1526 9 ай бұрын

That’s one awesome ashi sankaku garami move. Bro saw the opening and executed it perfectly.

@trentonfiffia8063 6 ай бұрын

Ive always said this though. Judo is mostly takedowns with a little ground work and BJJ is mostly ground work with a little takedowns. Wrestling is a good mix of both

@mr.purple250 4 ай бұрын

Judo has more groundwork than freestyle wrestling. Wrestling has no submissions while most of bjj’s most common submissions come from judo

@trentonfiffia8063 4 ай бұрын

@@mr.purple250 You know that makes ALOT of sense because watching John Wick do some stuff I'm like hey I do that in Judo but he's doing BJJ? Also people watching my fight reels will be like when did you study BJJ and I'm like that was Judo and they're like nahhh man that submission was BJJ

@mr.purple250 4 ай бұрын

@@trentonfiffia8063 well judo has limited submissions, only elbow locks, strangles, and some shoulder locks like kimura/americana (I’m a bjj guy btw)

@TrentStrong 4 ай бұрын

...but with zero submissions.

@michaelmcloughlinmcloughli4023 9 ай бұрын

ROCK N ROLL MEN

@DocPaolo 5 ай бұрын

Those men are amazingly skilled and, chimp stronger. RESPECT

@krymru5270 9 ай бұрын

JUDO the Best Japan

@user-pi1ge1gw1q 6 ай бұрын

Azerbaycan gürcüsdan özbekisdan da yaxşı 🎉

@PumaEscuelaDeJudo 5 ай бұрын

100% Judo!!!

@tulegen8071 9 ай бұрын

Каниковский - Машина!

@michil75 3 ай бұрын

No groundwork in Judo ? That's funny. Groundwork was my favorite.

@waltherwagner9711 8 ай бұрын

BUT Judo had much better groundwork 15 years ago. With double leg takedown and newaza it has been a more complete grappling sport than BJJ today. Its sad. If BJJ would change the rules and make throws and standup wrestling more important it could be what Judo has been in the past. I think they are on a good way with combat jiujitsu.

@oneguy7202 5 ай бұрын

UWW grappling gi competition that thing

@user-vh8md8lj4m 2 ай бұрын

Дзюдо это одна из саамых саамых красивых видов спорта

@frostysmoke37 8 ай бұрын

That was a pretty sweet move right there

@user-sm3dp5iw2d 5 ай бұрын

Редкий болевой. Красивая техника

@ismaelbouach5457 7 ай бұрын

He probably did some jiu-jitsu

@user-jc4yo1uq8z 7 ай бұрын

No, this is a technique from the post-Soviet school of judo and sambo

@eyoutube1 7 ай бұрын

Lmao there it is. BJJ ego.

@ismaelbouach5457 7 ай бұрын

@@eyoutube1 Not really sure that it’s bjj but he certainly didn’t do only Judo, that came from experience in another grappling art

@byrontakeuchi2881 6 ай бұрын

I never learned that in Judo. The dojos I’ve trained at emphasized throwing techniques. We did some newaza, but were pretty basic. I’ve done omoplatas in BJJ, but never a reverse and definitely not from standing. I watched that thing like 50 times. Very impressive technique and execution.

@05dagmaga82 5 ай бұрын

Он занимался только дзюдо и самбо, я с ним в одном зале занимался достаточно долго.

@PROECCO 9 ай бұрын

Perfect Power🔥

@robinrobin7908 4 ай бұрын

Супер!!!

@simonbandarianMMA 6 ай бұрын

Bjj says that? No. No one says that! Any educated fighter knows what Newaza is! 💯😎👊

@santigallodelabesa3138 8 ай бұрын

What's the tradicional japanese name for an omoplata like that?

@souhildouida9846 8 ай бұрын

Ashi garami

@santigallodelabesa3138 8 ай бұрын

@@souhildouida9846 thanks for the answer but this is not an ashi garami at all. Not even modern Grappling Will call It ashi garami and they use It for movements very different to traditional ashi garami.

@souhildouida9846 8 ай бұрын

@@santigallodelabesa3138 yes actually the original ashi garami start from standing position then you go for half tomoe nagi after that you do the arm lock with your leg , we saw on the video only the arm lock

@alvinhicks6326 5 ай бұрын

Dislocated his own shoulder

@georgemorley1029 3 ай бұрын

As someone has already stated, white's shoulder has dislocated when they hit the mat together, because the mass of two bodies falling transferred itself into white's shoulder joint. And he still didn't tap until he was rolled and the bar was on.

@pooppoop1619 5 ай бұрын

The amount of judo black belts I see go into blue belt bjj matches and get one fancy takedown and then they get crushed on the ground is insane lol

@Blei0 4 ай бұрын

And some BJJlers have no stand up game. They just sit down.

@TrentStrong 4 ай бұрын

@@Blei0 Except you don't just lose if you sit down in BJJ. Not comparable.

@nickshhhhhh 4 ай бұрын

More on the “things that never happened” show. High level judokas don’t lose to butt scoopers.

@Blei0 4 ай бұрын

@@TrentStrong That's the problem with BJJ. You can win by sitting without ever learning a throw.

@astrajopel.dasistauto.3867 3 ай бұрын

@@TrentStrong😂 охотник за головами семьи Грейси, японец расскажите ему это😂😂😂😂

@danc2626 4 ай бұрын

I have a black belt in both and teach for a living. They are the same martial art but two separate sports that change the focus when preparing for competing which changes the way people approach them.

@Hero4fun77 7 ай бұрын

You can't do ground work if the opponent standing up, but this judoka decided to stay on the ground. Probably he is tired.

@joseluisbrache6652 2 ай бұрын

Awesome sport love it

@cettepersonnela8254 9 ай бұрын

BJJ certainly laughing at the caption

@feanor8505 9 ай бұрын

Дзюдо смеётся над bjj

@micaylapresley 8 ай бұрын

@@feanor8505 Until they lose to BJJ 😂

@feanor8505 8 ай бұрын

@@micaylapresley как можно выиграть постоянно сидя на заднице😄

@TR0wny0310 4 ай бұрын

Матвей гений🔥

@user-oj6be7cf8p 2 ай бұрын

J'adore le judo

@elbeantako8411 8 ай бұрын

Bruh my brain does not compute

@petermatosyunes988 8 ай бұрын

That's why judo is judo

@Fuji.Sports 2 ай бұрын

This is Hasokumake, The athlete in white was already on his feet, when the armbar started, there was an error by the referee in this fight.

@user-fl3ni1mx2o 4 ай бұрын

Beatiful😉

@ArslanMagomedov286 5 ай бұрын

Kimura was a Judoka yet he had excellent groundwork

@user-pp8fs9gh2c 5 ай бұрын

Красавчик!💪

@senseileo4829 4 ай бұрын

Thats basically a boxer saying no other martial art has punches

@The_Betonfrisur 3 ай бұрын

Incredible technique

@pauloh7631 5 ай бұрын

Thats like a reverse omaplata or kimura with legs? Sick

@crakface 7 ай бұрын

I love how judo just goes for it. Like this is it. Its over right now

@user-fp5ym4uu2f 9 ай бұрын

Это был великолепный танец!❤💣💥💥💥💥💥💥💥👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🤝

@RKmndo 4 ай бұрын

Judo includes striking too.

@ugolbulka 8 ай бұрын

This is Sambo submission, but no Bjj submission

@micaylapresley 8 ай бұрын

Omoplata is one of BJJ's most basic submission and there are people who hit the flying version in competition

@user-jk9jm8yn5g 9 ай бұрын

Самбисткий приём)

@user-vo9xt1pe8y 9 ай бұрын

Вообще-то дзюдоистский

@khayrullaabdullaev4891 8 ай бұрын

Это прием в Самбо а не Дзюдо

@DavisalmaosantossilviaSalmao 6 ай бұрын

Song ??

@user-xp3fo8je6y 5 ай бұрын

Каниковский просто зверь в хорошем смысле. Разных ему не видно пока.

@andrispimenovs5129 9 ай бұрын

Wow. Ashi garami?!👍👍👍🌷🌷🌷👏👏👏

@bozzskaggs112 6 ай бұрын

Blue brought the grit to the grind.

@user-yw8zx5bg1e 4 ай бұрын

キメ技かいな！すご

@herculesmwp7983 7 ай бұрын

Damn that’s gotta hurt 😩

@MatthewAllen-bb9bo 5 ай бұрын

Yes

@sjhmagic1 6 ай бұрын

If you practice your jujitsu. The match would have ended quicker on the ground.

@davisantos6144 6 ай бұрын

Never give the back in the ghround and pound

@gerardotorrestorres2308 5 ай бұрын

Que técnica tan terrorífica le hizo. Me acuerdo que mi maestro en un entrenamiento me tomó de esa forma el antebrazo y casi me lo rompe, y después se la regrese pero yo si le rompí la mano😅

@dylanb2086 7 ай бұрын

This happening in a high level comp is kind of embarrassing. Past blue belt in bjj no one should be getting caught in that

@CaPnBaLlBaG 4 ай бұрын

Seriously. Bro made no attempt to grab his own thigh, no attempt to rollover (instead posts on his head). He had no idea what he was doing there. I'm not saying I'm very good but I've never been caught in an omoplata. Sheesh.

@JesusFreekJiuJitsu 9 ай бұрын

Yes! Reverse omoplata!

@rays14ful 2 ай бұрын

There is groundwork in Judo. It is much faster and and simpler. It’s called Newaza. It is fast and efficient.

@phounsoukrajasombat2465 9 ай бұрын

Jamais vu😮

@user-mv4th3xl1v 3 ай бұрын

Мастер.... Провести такой сложный прием на соревнованиях ...

@juantorres-kx5mr 9 ай бұрын

Como se llama la canción??

@user-qv7it1nr2s 7 ай бұрын

кимура ногой браво ))))))))))))))

@dilmurodmurodov2391 8 ай бұрын

JUDO👍💪

@tacobade9326 9 ай бұрын

Le gas c'est déboîter l'épaule juste avant la clé sur sont bras

@sovietunionsssr 7 ай бұрын

Макс КРАСАВЧИК❤

@smokinlion8889 8 ай бұрын

Top guy simply had to posture and rip outta that. He’d know that if he was a BJJ guy. 😉

@arabboymadumarov6834 5 ай бұрын

Wow 👏

@BJones24 9 ай бұрын

Nice technique + way to finish just as time in the match was about expire.

@DavisalmaosantossilviaSalmao 6 ай бұрын

Nome da música por favor

@baurzhanzhanbaur9532 3 ай бұрын

Оте мыкты балуан!!!

@yakomako3769 9 ай бұрын

💪🏼

@nebojsadramicanin9708 6 ай бұрын

👏👏👏👏💪💪😊

@mitsubishieclipse1g687 9 ай бұрын

Que buen volteo y terminar en inmobilisacion

@cameronforbes2649 9 ай бұрын

Also I think that was a very Sambo style entry for the move.

@EJEdutch 9 ай бұрын

Huizinga roll.

@Gyros-Judo 4 ай бұрын

Fun fact : BJJ is just watered down Judo.

@noisemaxsf 5 ай бұрын

Офигеть.... 💯

@AusarisTV 9 ай бұрын

And then gone play Limp Bizkit at that 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

@_lofel_4738 6 ай бұрын

Yadviga Ivanovna!!!

@user-zo2pu3fr1n 5 ай бұрын

😮круто

@wnuczekweterynarza2392 7 ай бұрын

Wow😮

@raleighredinger4294 5 ай бұрын

I’m excited after extensive BJJ training to start judo bc while we do standing work in BJJ the judo moves and work I’ve seen are just a whole different game. It’s like boxing is top level and BJJ is bottom, while judo is that middle level manipulation.